Curse

Shyft the Pyro · Jan 18, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by arsie

I agree. Especially in a game sequal. There should be some means where current GW players can reserve their names in GW2, even if it was just one name.

Doesn't something like that already exist? When the [Tournament] NPC was added to the Battle Isles for Hero Battles, I remember some business about "reserving" or "registering" a character name in the update notes. I don't PvP much, so I don't know if this "registration" does anything other than put you on the ladder, but this discussion is making me think we could very well have been beta-testing a "transition" feature for ANet this way.

bel unbreakable · Jan 18, 2008, 10:36 AM // 10:36

what worrys me about gw2 isint those that got banned cause they may or may not have learned their leason its those hundrededs of fools that didint think they did any thing wrong in the first place.
a whole load of new ppl ready and waiting to get banned

Shanaeri Rynale · Jan 18, 2008, 11:26 AM // 11:26

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Originally Posted by Lykan

There has to be a rectroactive account link in GW2 otherwise theres nothing stopping me from starting GW2 and making my character 'Shanaeri Rynale'

Hehe. Anet have said your name will be reserved for you in GW2 so it must link to GW1. What we are speculating on is if that link will be severed if the GW1 character is banned.

Lonesamurai · Jan 18, 2008, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

Hehe. Anet have said your name will be reserved for you in GW2 so it must link to GW1. What we are speculating on is if that link will be severed if the GW1 character is banned.

onlyif you have the hall of monuments and have linked the character to it

Mordakai · Jan 18, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

OK, can someone explain what happens to an account when it is banned?

Is it deleted totally, ie, the character's name can be used by someone else, all data on the account no longer exists?

Or is it there, and just can't be accessed, so the HoM link would technically still be possible, if allowed by Anet?

mrvrod · Jan 19, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by Jake_Steel

Such is the way of the internet. Banning a person in this day and age is generally that means an IP ban. It's the offender's fault that little Bro Billy suffers as well, not the company doing the ban.

It's impractical to ban by ip, I have a semi-static ip from charter, but if I reboot my modem enough times I will get a different ip, then someone else would be stuck with my banned ip.

ip addresses are not unique to the same person all the time, there are sets of ip's for a certain geographical location, and while only one person can legitimately run a specific ip at a given time, it does not mean that that is their permanent ip.

Sir Seifus Halbred · Jan 19, 2008, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

Should previously banned players be given a second chance to start anew in GW2?

Guild Wars 2 is a completley new game, so it doesn't matter if they were banned in Guild Wars 1.

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Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

Or should banns be retroactive and carry over into GW2?

That makes no sense and is not possible, Guild Wars 2 is a new and seperate game how could the ban from Guild Wars 1 carry over?

Shakti · Jan 19, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21

My opinion, GW1 bans shouldn't be banned in GW2. However, they should NOT be able to link a banned account and get the benifits in HoM etc.

Shadowspawn X · Jan 19, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35

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Originally Posted by Sir Seifus Halbred

Guild Wars 2 is a completley new game, so it doesn't matter if they were banned in Guild Wars 1.

Guilds Wars two is not a new game. It is a sequel thus a continuation of GW1 the titles and achievements carry over and so does the bans. However if the GW2 account is not linked to a banned account or email perhaps a banned person can slip though the cracks unnoticed.

Red Sonya · Jan 19, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by Sir Seifus Halbred

Guild Wars 2 is a completley new game, so it doesn't matter if they were banned in Guild Wars 1.

That makes no sense and is not possible, Guild Wars 2 is a new and seperate game how could the ban from Guild Wars 1 carry over?

Because if you were perma banned in GW1 you should remain perma banned in GW2 and NCsoft have the data files to check if you try to open an account in GW2, so, you'll get perma banned again and lost that $50 bucks you just spent on GW2. I will laugh then haha

Drop of Fear · Jan 19, 2008, 08:26 AM // 08:26

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Actually that's not quite so as it was mentioned the botters that were banned and people who also bought gold online that were banned would be perma banned. Meaning their IP, their credit card, address or anything that NCsoft has in their data banks on that customer were banned as well. So, some of those if they want back in the game would have to change their names, local addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers or anything else in that data bank, because if one thing shows up that account would be also banned. I also agree with this. People who reached the perma ban status should remain so and no 2nd, 3rd or 4th chances allowed. When you break the rules to this extent there are no 2nd chances in my book. It's like these last 117 that got banned, they should be perma banned and remain perma banned.

multiple of the 117 already had a 2nd account / 3rd account which is still unbanned and they're still playing with that one. a handfull of them even got 2 accounts banned and their third still is eligible to play the game...

Iuris · Jan 19, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Thing is Iuris you don't know what Anet is doing in monitoring banned accounts so you are just blowing smoke with assumptions. They did make factual statements that banned accounts would be linked to new accounts of those banned accounts and they would be banned as well. Those are factual statements not assumptions.

Quite true. I'm not claiming that I know the actual GW policy. Noone here does, although a hint by Gaile might drop if we're lucky.

What I did was merely start with the known official statements and corellated them with the statements that banned people have purchased new boxes and have not been automatically banned. From then, I speculated about the possible actual policy.

Of course it's all blowing smoke. However, that's how smoke signals work.

BTW, if my speculation is correct, GW1 banned accounts will have no effect on GW2. The moment one would claim a connection to a banned account, he'd give himself away.

Red Sonya · Jan 19, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39

Well they did say "when they find them" so, it is more of an ongoing process than an immediate action. In time they will catch up to those 3rd accounts and more than likely will run checks initially when GW2 comes out for banned account links. I'm not saying that SOME of the criminal 117 can't bypass the system, I'm just saying the system will actively search for them and get them eventually. If they messed up once, just like all criminals they will mess up again and lose that 3rd account, if Anet NCsoft doesn't find it beforehand.

As Gaile I believe worded it "you are subject to" being banned and the rest of those accounts as well. This had more to do with "botting and gold buying and selling at that time" as that was more of a major issue than merely exploiting the game. So, that is where Anet NCsoft can be more apt to look for ALL accounts vs just a handful since 117 members is paultry compared to the 1000's of botters and gold sellers and buyers they are after.

In essense though it's kind of like getting banned on a forum, they can ban the "name", but, they can't ban the person. It's too easy to change your IP addresses these days for a perma ban on any forum or just use an anonymous proxy to begin with. So, same could be said for GWs they can ban that account, but, if a person really wants back in bad enough they will find a way. Thing is about GW I would't want to lose 3 years of play on an account by doing something ignorant and silly like these 117 did or people that buy and sell gold within the game.